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laura keplar. and also the gospel diva tamala mann will join us. "cnn newsroom" is up next. happening now, desperate in dallas. in a rare move, not executed in nearly 50 years, the city is taking to the air overnight to stop the deadly west nile virus. this morning, we're asking, are the residents at risk? and ann opens up. mitt romney's wife getting personal in primetime. the tax issue, her m.s. diagnosis, and standing by her husband. the revealing interview is straight ahead. cash out. facebook stock, and some say confidence, is plummeting. the social network is struggling to maintain its value. now one writer is saying that mark zuckerberg should step down. we'll talk to him live this hour. and bill clinton, meet bill clinton.
a nap shot 14 years in the making. a ugandan boy, the 41st president. a touching reunion from half a world away. "cnn newsroom" begins right now. and good morning. so glad you're with us on this friday. i'm alina cho in for carol costello. we begin this hour in afghanistan. and the latest deadly attack on u.s. troops by the very allies they are supposed to trust. and it's not the first time. the latest incident earlier today in farah province. a uniformed afghan police officer opened fire on u.s. troops and killed two americans. it's the third such attack on americans in just the past week. that makes 31 times this year that afghan security personnel have turned on nato troops, including americans. at least 39 coalition forces have been killed just this year. most of them americans. 21 in all.
that compares to 15 such fatalities in all of last year. our barbara starr is at the pentagon watching the story for us. good morning. you know, these are the very troops that americans are training to take over once they leave the country, and they are turning the gun on them. how concerned is the pentagon? >> well, alina, good morning. let me start with a brief update. we're getting word from nato there was a second attack today. two u.s. troops wounded in another one of these attacks, thankfully not killed. it's important to remember that as difficult as this is, as dangerous as it is, it is a small number of afghan forces or alleged afghan forces that are engaging in all of this activity. that said, the leader of the taliban says they are infiltrating the afghan forces on a regular basis on conduct these attacks. against the u.s. and the coalition. and defense secretary leon panetta expressing extreme concern about all of this. have a quick listen.
>> one of the reasons the taliban is targeting in this manner, we believe, is the success that our afghan partners are having on the battlefield. the reality is that the taliban has not been able to regain any territory lost. and so they are resorting to these kinds of attacks to create havoc. and there's no question it's of concern. it's dangerous. and we've got to do everything we can do to try to prevent it. >> so what are they doing? are there really any new ideas out there about how to protect u.s. and nato forces in the field when they are out working with these afghan troops, and they may not be certain if any of those afghan troops are going to turn against them. panetta is talking about trying to get better intelligence, trying to get better screening of the security procedures that allow afghans to join their military service, trying to identify who might turn out to
be a turn coat. but this is tough business, alina. and right now, the attacks of this very tragic nature are on the rise. alina? >> the question is, will all of the u.s. troops still pull outcome 2014. we'll have to wait and see. barbara starr at the pentagon. thank you very much. meanwhile, the man accused of shooting a building manager at the family research council in washington will not be released on bond. instead, he'll be given a mental health evaluation. but there's an interesting debate going on right now about who is to blame for wednesday's shooting. here is what the head of the family research council said. watch. >> he was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like the southern poverty law center, that have been reckless in labeling organizations hate groups because they disagree with them on public policy. >> interesting comments there. sandra endo is joining me live.
she has been following this story and is here to explain these controversial comments. sandy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, alina. it's certainly a twist in the story with still no official word on the motive of the shooter. now the head of the family research council, tony perkins, is definitely taking issue with the southern poverty law center for labeling frc as a hate group in 2010. he said in a news conference yesterday that frc has been linked to chick-fil-a, a company which has stirred up a lot of controversy over the staunch public stance it pronounced against same-sex marriage. and it's a view that the frc shares. now, perkins believes that's why the frc may have been targeted. the suspect, 28-year-old floyd corkins, was carrying 15 chick-fil-a sandwiches in his back pack at the time of the shooting. but authorities have not indicated any connection between that and the company. now the head of chick-fil-a says law enforcement officials have not yet reached out to chick-fil-a as part of this investigation.
and the splc released a statement late yesterday afternoon saying, in part, perkins' accusation is outrageous. the splc has listed the frc as a hate group since 2010 because it has knowingly spread false and denigrating propaganda about lgbt people, not as some claim because it opposes same-sex marriage. they say offering legitimate and fact-based criticism in a democratic society is tantamount to suggesting that the objects of criticism should be the targets of criminal violence. there are certainly two sides to this story as this investigation continues. >> interesting developments. thank you, sandy. turning now to the presidential race and its shifting landscape. cnn is crunching the numbers of the latest polls, and the very latest is this. the battle ground state of
wisconsin now considered a true toss-up. it had been labeled leaning toward obama, but the president's lead has evaporated to a virtual statistical tie. that news comes in the wake of wisconsin native paul ryan being named as mitt romney's vice presidential running mate. the republican ticket shows romney and ryan, but make no mistake there's a second romney who looms large in this campaign, and her name is ann. ann romney says her husband's success may not have been possible without her, and that is just one of the comments that is raising a few eyebrows in a primetime interview from last night. here to walk us through it is my old friend john berman of cnn's "early start." john, good morning. great to see you. >> good morning, alina. >> ann romney a great defender of her husband on a variety of issues, including tax returns in particular. what did he say about that? >> well, ann romney is such a key player in this campaign. and the romney team likes to have her out on the trail
speaking about any number of issues. and lately, she has been a fierce defender of her husband and really herself because they file jointly on the issue of these tax returns. she did an interview last night with nbc's primetime show "rock center." and she defended her husband's decision not to release more than the two years he's already agreed to release. let's listen. >> we have been very transparent to what's legally required of us. but the more we release, the more we get attacked, the more we get questioned, the more we get pushed. so we have done what's legally required, and there's going to be more no tax releases given. and there's a reason for that, and that's because of how -- what happens as soon as we release anything. mitt's financial disclosures when he was governor are huge. if people want to really look and see, any question they have. >> just a few minutes ago, the romney campaign manager matt rhodes reiterated that mitt
romney will not be releasing any more than those two years of tax returns. ann romney also discussed her battle with multiple sclerosis. she does say it's in remission, and her health is good, but still obviously an emotional subject. she got misty eyed when describing the day back in 1988 when she first received the diagnosis. listen in. >> walked into the doctor's office, and he did the testing, which is, you know, don't look. can you tell where i'm moving your toe, and i'm like, no, i don't know. can you feel this? no. can't feel that. stand up. and then close your eyes and turn. and i would -- i couldn't -- i was too, you know, i would lose my balance. and that's when i started to cry. and it's like, wait a minute. i'm failing every test he's giving me. and mitt is sitting there. and you can see his eyes cloud over. >> now she says she suffered a flare-up of her condition in the spring when the pace and the stress of the campaign had become so much.
she said it jolted her with a real scare and made her realize she had to rachet down on the demands. and she said at the time, she kept it a secret. she didn't even tell her husband she had this flare-up. obviously, it made her her nervous but not so nervous she didn't talk to anybody. >> i did the math. do you know it's been 10 years since we have appeared on television together? >> they got the band back together again, alina, i'm so excited. >> on another network. but i'm so glad you're here at cnn. great to see you, john. mark zuckerberg is the face of facebook. he is its founder, creator, and ceo. but the stock is plummeting. by half since its ipo. is it time for him to go? and who would replace him?
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14 minutes after the hour. welcome back to "cnn newsroom." top stories we're following this hour, firefighters will face blistering temperatures and possible storms in their ongoing battle against wildfires in the west. at least 70 large fires are burning tens of thousands of acres in 13 states west of the
mississippi. three members of the all-girl russian punk band pussy riot have been convicted by a russian judge of hooliganism. they face a potential sentence of up to seven years in prison. the band had criticized russian president vladimir putin while performing in a church earlier this year. a labor department survey finds 90% of singles who lost jobs in the economic downturn are now working. just 22% of married people who were job else have found work. part of the reason is singles tend to be younger, more flexible with relocating, and possibly more desperate to find work. best video of the day, a monument now marks the spot where barack and michelle obama first kissed. it was where an ice cream shop once stood in 1989 in suburban chicago. that's hyde park. she was a chicago lawyer. he was a summer associate at the same firm. the monument was commissioned by owners of a nearby shopping center.
that will get people to go there. well, a few companies are as tied to their ceo as mark zuckerberg. the hoodie-wearing ceo became a billionaire many times over creating facebook. but he is now in the middle of a wild ride on wall street and it's not good. facebook stock is free falling, losing nearly half its value, that's $50 billion, just since its ipo in may. just yesterday, the first day insiders who were given stock were allowed to dump it, and facebook shares plummeted nearly 7% to a new low of $19.69 before closing at $19.87. zuckerberg himself has lost millions. so the question some are asking is, is it time for him to go? john able is a columnist and is joining me from new york. great to see you, john. >> good morning. great to see you.
>> you write that the masses need a hero, and that hero is not mark zuckerberg. he needs to get out of the way. mark zuckerberg is literally the face of facebook. many can't see how that company could run without him. so who would replace him? >> i think it's stepping aside rather than stepping down. he is the visionary behind something which no one has ever done before. i'm not suggesting that he leave the company. i'm not suggesting that he not remain the controlling shareholder. he should remain chairman of the board. nothing should happen without his ok. i think, though, that once you become a public company, you sort of have to love wooing wall street. he is not good at that. there's no reason he should be. other people are. he should seize that role. >> so what is the question, then? if he's not stepping down and he's stepping aside, what would his value be to facebook if he is not the ceo? what would he do? >> well, the ceo is pretty much
a fiscal responsibility. he is a strategy guy. a programmer and a strategy guy. and that's what he should do. he shouldn't have to worry about quarterly results and silly things like impressing institutions and investors. he should be in the lab. and allow other people who are business people by training and by vocation and by choice to do that silly sort of wall street stuff. >> you actually write, which i found interesting, and this does in fact bolster your argument, that there is a precedent for this. you look at companies like microsoft. google. and this has been done before. talk about that. >> sure. well, bill gates, one of the founders of microsoft, late in his career stepped aside. he still kind of runs the place. he's a strategy guy. still very much at microsoft. but steve bomber runs the show. larry page, one of the co-founders of google, was pushed out of the corner office. but he returned.
he is now running an immensely successful company. one of my favorites, which isn't maybe a perfect fit, is steve jobs who was fired from apple. returned 12 years later to a company on the ropes and the rest is history. so it's not even a case that zuckerberg would have to leave forever and go into sort of an ice floe exile. he'd still be there. >> i just have to squeeze in a last question, because charles cooper of cnn as you know wrote his own opinion article, and he says in part, zuckerberg brought facebook this far. no reason why he can't lead it into bigger things in the future if he stays true to himself. now, there are people, investors, who believe that this is really a buying opportunity, that now that the stock is at $19, people should get in. that it's going to go up again. and are we jumping the gun here? >> well, you know, i don't pick stocks. i don't recommend stocks. personally, i think the valuation will go down a bit more for technical reasons. a lot more people will be allowed to sell their shares
through the early part of 2013. so this might not be the best buying opportunity. look, facebook is going to make money. nobody does it like facebook. the question is, how much money it will make and whether it's worth what it said it was when it went public. that's the big question. >> well, it's got us talking. john abell of reuters media file. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. coming up, whitney houston's final film opens in theaters today. and we'll show you how hollywood handles real-life tragedies when they affect major movies. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm so into it,
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a bittersweet opening for whitney houston's final film "sparkle." it opens today, a little more than seven months after the legendary singer died in los angeles. houston's death came shortly after the filming had finished, and that caused a bit of a crisis for the movie's producers. entertainment correspondent kareen wynter explains how hollywood handles these tragedies. hopefully it doesn't happen often, but it does put the
producers in a dilemma. what do you do? >> reporter: it's really ironic if you think about it. they are the very headlines that often go on to become the movies themselves. but when these unthinkable situations happen, it's all hands on deck for the people behind the scenes who sometimes have to make those tough choices when tragedy strikes. it's likely hollywood will one day make a movie about the life of whitney houston. but what about the movie the star had just finished shooting when she died? >> i know y'all don't love each other that much. >> inevitably there's that first question of, well, do we need to change anything? >> reporter: houston's sudden passing left studio execs and film makers like producer deborah martin chase scrambling for answers about the film's release date and its script. >> there are a couple of lines in the movie that in light of events, you hear them and you're like, oh, my god. i can't believe she is saying that. >> was my life not enough of a
cautionary tale for you? >> the world was asking would we speed up the release of the movie. >> reporter: cinematic arts professor jason squire. >> oh, yes, all the time. >> reporter: and this entertainment lawyer agree that "sparkle is" is part of an unfortunate trend in hollywood, feature films requiring crisis management. >> you really need to repackage them and repurpose them that will not put off audiences. >> reporter: like earlier this year when neighborhood watchman george zimmerman shot and killed florida teenager trayvon martin. >> changing the title, "the watch," it used to be "neighborhood watch" because it was simply inappropriate after the headlines. >> reporter: and even more recently in july, when a gunman opened fire on a midnight screening of "the dark knight rises." tragically, that same audience was the first to see a preview for another film which in a horrific coincidence showed mobsters shooting at theatre patrons. >> in this case, they can move very quickly, and they did,
removing the trailer and shifting the release date of that movie. >> reporter: not edge do studios want to react respectfully to an unexpected disaster, they also have a bottom line to consider. >> you spend mountains of money, obscene amounts of money, so they have to take great care when this issue comes up. >> forgive me, but i -- >> heath ledger died while filming filming a movie. they had to recast the role. sometimes parts of movies have to be removed like the world trade center in "spider-man" after 9/11. real-life catastrophe, something hollywood never expects. but with more and more movies coming out every year and increasingly uncertain times, studios should always be prepared. >> keep everything in perspective. give it time. let it breathe. and this too shall pass.
>> reporter: as for "sparkle," in the end, no changes were made to the film's content or release date. >> we just said no, because she wouldn't have wanted us to. this was a movie that she loved and she was passionate about. >> reporter: a movie with its own set of challenges that martin hopes moves audiences this weekend. >> it makes me feel as if i have done something right. >> alina, it's really fascinating when you look at the big picture here, when art tragically imitates life. it's not just the studios and the film makers who feel this ripple effect. at last night's "sparkle" premiere in hollywood, one of the film's stars, jordyn sparks, who play's whitney's daughter in the movie, said it's so surreal to be part of a project that featured such a talented actress who is no longer here. alina? >> kareen wynter joining us from hollywood. thank you very much. the obama team wants to play let's make a deal on taxes. i'll tell you what they want from the romney campaign in return.
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an afghan police officer opened fire on u.s. troops killing two of them. just yesterday, seven u.s. service members died when a nato helicopter crashed in southern afghanistan. amateur video captured more shelling in aleppo. cnn cannot independently confirm the video's authenticity. the opposition reports that 61 syrians were killed just today. western and arab diplomats are gathering at the u.n. to seek an end to syria's deadly civil war. in louisiana, a 100-foot-synch hole the size of a football field is still growing. yesterday, two workers who were part of a cleanup operation at the site had to be rescued. they were on a boat that was tied to a tree when more land gave way, and it trapped them on their boat. all right. turning now to politics. and the issue that just won't go away for mitt romney. i'm talking about taxes.
tax returns to be specific. now the republican candidate is finally speaking out about what he's paid. >> i did go back and look at my taxes, and over the past 10 years, i never paid less than 13%. i think the most recent year is 13.6% or something like that. so i paid taxes every single year. harry reid's charge is totally false. i'm still waiting for har toe put up who it was that told him what he says they told him. i don't believe it for a minute, by the way. but every year i've paid at least 13%. and if you add in addition the amount that goes to charity, the number gets well above 20%. >> the response, well, after initially telling romney to, quote, prove it when it comes to his taxes, just this morning the obama team is offering a truce. well, sort of. in a letter, obama's campaign manager said in part, if the governor will release five years of returns, i commit in turn
that we will not criticize him for not releasing more. so there you have it. joining me now is jason johnson, chief political correspondent for politic 365 and a professor of political science. great to see you. and in washington, ron bonjean. ron, let's start with you. the romney campaign is rejecting this latest offer saying it will instead continue to focus on the economy. it has followed the letter of the law. come on. wouldn't it just be easier for the romney campaign to release these returns, get this story over with? and by not doing so, doesn't it make some people wonder what does he have to hide? >> well, you know, first of all, it would have been a lot easier a long time ago had he released his tax returns. that's absolutely correct. but now you're in a situation where if you give in to the obama campaign, they are not going to stop. if you think that they're going to stop at five years, there's no way. they are going to say, no, let's see more. any commitment to not going
after him on this issue is just false. it's not going to happen. so what mitt romney has to do, they have to reject it, move on, talk about the economy. and they just shouldn't talk about the issue anymore. and, you know, in the letter, matt rhodes, the campaign manager for mitt romney, said, look, if you want to talk about tax returns from now until the election, that's fine. we're going to talk about the economy. we're going to talk about solving america's problems. and that's what they really care about. >> just last night in a primetime interview, ann romney said, you know, mitt is an honest man. he did what he had to do. meanwhile, jason, i want to go to you in just a second. but first, listen to something. just this morning the obama team released the latest ad in the medicare wars. it's nice to be talking about issues. it's running in eight states. let's watch it. >> i'm barack obama, and i approved this message. >> now mitt romney's attacking the president on medicare. the nonpartisan aarp says obama care cracks down on medicare fraud, waste, and abuse, and
strengthens guaranteed benefits. and the ryan plan, aarp says it would undermine medicare and could lead to higher costs for seniors. and experts say ryan's voucher plan could raise future retirees' costs more than $6,000. get the facts. >> all right. again, that's an ad that will run in eight states. just yesterday, mitt romney as you know had a white board to prove that his plan would keep medicare solvent while the obama plan would cut $716 billion to medicare. this weekend, paul ryan heads to florida where his mother lives and happens to be on medicare. the gloves are off, aren't they? >> the gloves are off, but this is the kind of campaign that barack obama has always wanted. he wants a comparison of ideas. romney can't win this argument and neither can paul ryan. ryan's idea was to put grandma
in a home and sell the family home to buy a radio shack. it's not something that seniors will like. so the republicans need to get back to talking about what obama hasn't done, because if they are comparing ideas, they lose that battle. >> you know, romney did come out with that white board yesterday and said, just take a look at it. it's here in black and white. my plan will keep medicare solvent. obama is going to cut $716 billion from medicare. i mean, you know, that's compelling, isn't it? >> no, because white boards don't work very well. we learned that from ross perot. >> the obama campaign came out with their own white board. >> right. >> remember that. >> well, it's still not a good idea. it's generally a good idea to speak in terms of what are the policies that we've already had. arguing about the numbers and minuta, nobody ever believes that. you have two years of people criticizing the ryan budget as something that would hurt medicare. >> let me say this. this is a brilliant move by mitt romney to get in the face of the
obama campaign on medicare because they are going to be attacked on it anyway. they have jujitsued this, and gotten in their face and said, president obama stole $700 billion from medicare to pay for obama care. that has caused obama now to put out ads defending himself. look, they are talking about the economy. they have been talking about the economy for months, and they'll get back to it. but it's a good idea to try to neutralize this issue right now, which i think they are being very effective at. >> and with that, i tell the both of you have to have a great weekend. thank you for joining us with that spirited discussion. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. take a look at something. bill clinton, meet bill clinton. that's right. it happened in uganda, where a 14-year-old boy who was born the same month that clinton first visited the east african country was reunited with the former president during his most recent trip. both named bill clinton.
now president clinton encouraged his young namesake to stay focused on his dream of getting a medical degree, and even offered to fund his education. a west nile emergency in dallas sends the city to the skies to fight the deadly virus, spraying a large part of the county with insecticide from the air. 49,000 acres. this morning, we're asking did it help? [ to the tune of "lullay and good night" ] ♪ af-lac ♪ aflac [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. [ yawning sound ]
welcome back. overnight, two more people died from the west nile virus. this time in oklahoma. meanwhile, dallas, texas, has started aerial spraying 52,000 acres to kill mosquitoes spreading the virus. dallas county is in a state of emergency. the worst outbreak in the country. 155 cases and 10 of those people have died. that's a quarter of all infections nationwide.
this is the first time in 45 years that the area has sprayed insecticide from the sky. joining us now to talk a bit more about this is elizabeth cohen, our senior medical correspondent. elizabeth, let's start with the spraying. you know, people -- some people almost went to court to try to stop it. it didn't happen. went ahead overnight. i mean, how -- is it safe, i guess, is the first question, right? >> of course. you always are going to wonder when we're spraying these amounts of pesticides from the sky. and we called environmentalists who we thought would be up in arms about this, and actually they are not. they said, look, this is approved by the epa for residential use. they are using a very low volume. they are doing it at night when people are mostly inside. the chemical breaks down in the sunlight. so by the end of the next day, it's broken down. and they said, you know, you don't want to use this unless you have to. but when you have, you know, 26 people dead, you need to do something. >> right. and it's interesting. i actually saw that -- a saw a
local news report that said a lot of people in dallas obviously because of the hot weather, concerned about getting back into their pools, right? and they said because it breaks down so quickly, there's no waiting time in terms of getting back into a pool. but i guess the bigger question is, you know, whether they do the spraying or not, across the country, how scary is this west nile virus in your estimation? >> well, obviously, this is something to be concerned about, as we talked about. hundreds of cases, and 26 people are dead. but i do want to put this in perspective. out of all of the mo skeets out there in this country, only a small percentage carry west nile. when they bite you, you've got an 80% chance of being completely fine after being bitten. 80% chance that you're not even going to know it. >> interesting. >> the other 20%, most of those people will get sort of a flu-like kind of disease, and edge on a very small percentage will actually become gravely ill with the complications we have heard so much about. should we be concerned? yes. but i don't think people should
be freaking out. >> all right. and what's the best way to protect and prevent mosquito bites in the first place? >> there are things that you can do. let's go over the four ds. first, when you're outside, get a repellent with deet and use it. look in the ingredients list. also, dress in long sleeves and long pants. be careful especially at dusk and dawn because that's when mosquitoes like to get out and party. and also drain any standing water you have. like you fill up the kiddie pool. drain that thing once you're done with it. >> mosquitoes love standing water. >> they love that. and keep in mind that the people most vulnerable to west nile are the elderly. if an elderly person, a mosquito bite, starting to feel sick, pay particular attention. >> great to see you, as always. thank you for that important information. another bit of health news to pass along. u.s. health officials are warning baby boomers to get a blood test for hepatitis c. the centers for disease control and prevention says the virus
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47 minutes after the hour. checking your top stories, a man wearing an afghan police uniform opens fire on u.s. troops in southwestern afghanistan killing two of them. the killings are the latest in the so-called green on blue attacks by afghans in security uniforms. nato says there have been 31 such attacks just this year causing 39 deaths.
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welcome back. 52 minutes after the hour. we have to warn you that the story we're about to show you contains some disturbing video. it shows michigan police officers gunning down a man with a history of mental illness, shooting him 46 times after he stepped toward them with a knife. now, video of the incident is shed more light on the
controversy. here's jason carroll. >> a joint investigation is underway into the shooting. amateur video details what happened during the the final moments. i have to warn you, the video is graphic. this amateur video purchased by cnn and not made public until now, captured the confrontation between six saginaw police officers and milton hall, a 49-year-old man who his family said suffered from serious mental issues. paul, seen in the middle of the screen, had just had a run-in with a store clerk. he was in a stand off with police and holding a knife. a female officer is heard shouting. if you listen carefully, paul is then heard continuing to yell at police. paul seems agitated, but not intimidated by a police dog.
heard on the tape, a witness describes what he sees. >> about to go ham on him. >> then as he appears to take a few steps, everything comes to a head. local media report 46 shots were fired. cnn counted the sounds of at least 30 shots. anthony barber witnessed the shooting. >> all of a sudden, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and he drops. you know? pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. and he drops. i was about where that blue van, i was parked in my van. >> tabitha perry saw it, too. >> i heard one of officers say something to the fact where put the knife down or i'll let the dog go. >> do you believe the officers were justified in what they were
doing? >> no, i don't. there was a better way to do it. >> perry is not alone. pa paul's mother says police overreacted. >> emotionally, i have a lot of pain and i'm stunned that six human beings would stand in front of one human being and fire 46 shots. i -- i just don't understand that. >> on the day of the shooting, july 1st, the saginaw police chief defended his officer's actions. >> this is someone from our understanding, has a long history. not only with the police from our department, but the county. >> over the last month, members of the community have voiced outrage about the shooting, not satisfied with the police investigation into the officer's response.
we showed the video of the shooting to city councilman, norman bradock. >> i can see why people are traumatized and we need answers. >> could it be that investigators are just trying to make sure they're doing a thorough job and that's why the investigation is -- >> i'm sure that has something to do with it, but at the same time, it should be a top priority. >> the michigan state police lead investigator would not discuss the case, instead referring us to the prosecutor, who told was we can't tell you when the case is going to be completeded. the matter is being investigated by the michigan state police. hall's mother feels he knows the answer to the question of whether police used too much force. >> it appeared to be a firing
squad dressed in police uniform and it, there was another way. they did not have to kill him. >> the six officers involved in the shooting have been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation and at this point, there's no telling how long that investigation will last. a prosecutor telling me he wants to make sure this investigation is done precisely to make sure they get to the bottom of exactly what happened here. >> thank you. in a written statement to cn nrk, michigan state police said our focus is on conducting a complete and thorough investigation rather than a hasty one. the next hour of cnn new troom begins after a quick break.
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against all enemies. now, a group of former special forces have a new mission. defeating president obama. and more and more american rs coming down with the west nile virus. we'll talk to the may mayor of dallas about the extra measures being taken there. talking about ariel spraying, to battle this deadly disease. a car crash claims the life of a maryland woman, then her grieving family gets added insult. the insurance company says the accident is her fault and he fuses to pay more money. the family, even defending her killing in court. plus, this. >> it's fun the restore cars and fix them up. taking something that ran 100 years ago and getting it to work again. >> talk about a great assignment. he's one of the kings of late night comedy, but deep down, some would call leno the
ultimate gear head. we're going to take you inside his car collection and his his car collection and his garage. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning. it's 7:00 a.m. in the west, 10:00 a.m. in the east. we begin this hour with new details on the former navy s.e.a.l.s.s going after president obama and his campaign. the 22 minute web video accuses him of leaking military secrets. the group also plans an advertising campaign in key presidential swing states. the former military and intelligence officials say they are nonpartisan, driven just by genuine concerns. brian todd has uncovered new detail about group's claims. he joins us now from washington.
it seems pretty unbelievable that this could be nonpolitical. what have you found? >> the claim is that dubious at best. we've just discovered some links this group has to the gop, links that the group has not acknowledged. its new web video just rakes the president. in a campaign ad, bill clinton praises president obama's courage for ordering the navy s.e.a.l.s to launch against osama bin laden. >> suppose they had been captured or killed. >> on the campaign trial, the president emphasizes it himself. >> i promised to go after al-qaeda and bin laden and we did it. >> mr. president, you did not kill osama bin laden. america did. the the work that american military has done killed osama bin laden. you did not. >> that's former navy s.e.a.l.
ben smith in a video slamming president obama. the film features former s.e.a.l.s, former intelligence members, skewering the president for taking credit for the raid. the obama campaign pushes back saying the president has repeatedly credited the the s.e.a.l.s and also points to this interview wolf blitzer did with the the commander of the raid. >> at the the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the united states that shouldered the burden, that made the hard decisions. >> i pressed ben smith on that. does the president get no credit? >> he gets the credit for having osama bin laden killed under his watch. if he gave the the order, wonderful. but taking all the credit with the i, i, i, me, i, i about it and using us as a political ad is wrong. >> the film also blasted the
obama administration for allowing classified information on the raid and other security operations to become public. >> we had tactics, techniques, procedures compromised. ooen the even the name of the dog on the operation. >> the obama team denies taking part in any leaks and says the republicans are resorting to swift vote tactics. a reference to the attacks on john kerry's war record. this new film was made by a group called opsec. a spokeswoman says it's nonpartisan, but cnn found many links between the group and gop. the president of opsec once ran for congress as a republican. the spokesman for the group has done similar work for the bush administration and republicans in congress. ben smith, that former s.e.a.l., told me he's an independent voter, but says on his facebook page he was once a spokesman for
the tea party. we found out that also in that suite are two republican strategy groups and no others. we were not alloweded to film inside, but were told by someone inside that there is not much more than a desk there. a spokeswoman told us where they're locate d has nothing to do with the message they want to get out. could that message hurt president obama like swift vote damaged john kerry? >> it could hurt obama political ly in the the sense that it's a very competitive election that's going to come down to 20 or 25,000 votes in a handful of states. we don't know what's going to move those voters, but national security is a very sensitive issue for many people. >> and opsec is now one of three groups coming out with campaigns against the president over security leaks. neither the pentagon nor cia would comment or nor confirm the
military experience of those in the film. >> brian, thank you very much. the man accused of shooting a building manager at the family research council in washington will not be released on bond. instead, he'll be given a mental health evaluation, but there's an interesting debate going on about who was to blame for wednesday's shooting. here is what the head of the family research council, tony perkins, said. >> he was given a license to shoot an unarm ed man by organizations like the southern poverty law center that have been reckless in labeling organizations hate groups because they disagree with them on public policy. >> the southern poverty law center relossed a statement saying perkins' accusation is outrageous. the splc listed the group as a hate group since 2010 because it has spread false propaganda about lesbian, gay people not
because as some claim, it opposes same-sex marriage. its allies are saying that in effect, offering legitimate criticism is tantamount in subjecting that the objects should be the targets of criminal violence. insurance companies are supposed to help us in times of need and great distress. not fight us over every last nickel and time, but that's what happened to one family after they lost a loved one in a tragic car accident. it's the headline that went viral. my sister paid progress insurance to defend her killer in court. >> my -- is not an especially large soap box, so i was speaking out of a sense of obligation to my sister and parents. >> matt fischer posted the the blog on monday, but the story begins in june of 2010. when matt's sister, katie, was killed in a car crash in baltimore, maryland. the suv that hit her had run a
red light. the 24-year-old was killed instantly. >> the day she died, she just run a ten-mile road race. >> her brother says she had a $100,000 insurance policy with progressive. the family says her policy also stated progressive would make up the the difference if she was killed by an underinsured driver like the one that hit her, so fisher was paid -- they were wrong. >> progressive took the position that my sister was at fault in the accident that killed her, which under maryland law, would free them of the obligation to play. >> out of a sense of honor and because katie had student loans that needed to be paid, the family decided to go after the money, but in maryland, it's against the law to sue an insurance company that refuses payment, so they had to sue the family. and then armed with that decision, forced progressive to pay.
but in court -- >> progressive, my sister's insurer, sat across the room. they, their lawyer argued for the defendant in the case, argued he was not negligent in my sister's death. >> so outraged he wrote on his blog, if you are insured by progress and they owe you money, they will defend your killer in court in order to not pay you your policy and when the chips are down, your money will have bought you nothing, but a kick in the face. after a world wind of criticism on facebook and twitter, progress responded with the same tweet. over and over. saying in part, we properly handled the claim within our contractual obligations and that in the eyes of some, made m matters worse. >> when you respond to a very emotional issue using a mechanical technology like twitter, it doesn't work. it's very difficult to tweet compassion.
>> the tweet has been taken down and progressive released a statement saying it did not serve as the attorney for the defendant in the case. he was defended by his insurance company, nationwide. there was a question as to who was at fault and the jury decided in the fisher family's favor just last week. we respect the verdict and now can continue to work with the fisher family to reach a resolution. but matt fischer says his family has not yet seen a check. what's your message to progressive if they're watching? >> when there's a adjuster or someone who sits in a room and says this policy will have to pay x amount. should we pay or drag this out? add this to the calculator. >> matt fischer adds he hopes this moves the needle and we have an update to the story. one that really reenforces the power of the social media
campaign. progressive says it has settled with the family. the company says quote, this was a tragic accident and our sympathies go out to the family. a west nile emergency in dallas forces the city to take to the skies to fight the deadly virus. they are spraying insecticide from the air. but was it safe and this morning, we're asking did it help? [ female announcer ] the best things in life are the real things. nature valley trail mix bars are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roasted nuts, chewy granola, and real fruit. nature valley trail mix bars. 100% natural. 100% delicious.
apple stock has set another all time high. now more than $644 a share. is there a particular reason why this stock is surging today? >> we've been watching apple go up first four month of the year, i think we hit a little bit of a funk in may, but now, t hit another high of $644.15. it puts the company's value at over $600 billion. it would become the most valuable company ever when its shares hit over $663 and analysts expect that day is not far off. it's pretty much all about the
product buzz. apple hasn't made any official announcements of the new products, but the buzz is high for the new iphone and ipad. we believe it's going to be set off on september 12th, so that is what's making investors forget about those weaker than expected earnings reported this month. >> all right, facebook another all time low. down another 1% in early trading. thank you so much. >> now to an ongoing emergency in texas. early this morning, dallas, texas, sprayed 52,000 acres in dallas county with an insecticide. that's the highlighted areas you see there and it is the latest effort to control the west nile virus spread by a growing mosquito population. just this part of texas has about 25% of the nation's nearly 700 west nile infections and ten deaths so far this year. a rare strain of the virus is affecting one teenager. it's making her brain swell.
now, jordan connor's mom has to help her walk because she could lose control of her limbs. >> a parent is not connected to their child, your child can die on your sofa and not know it because it just seemed like jordan was taking a nap and not waking up. >> although this is the first time dallas has sprayed dallas county in 45 years, it is routine in other areas. now, during the spraying, people were encouraged to stay inside. joining us now by phone is the mayor of dallas. good morning, mr. mayor. thank you for joining us. so, the planes from what i understand, sprayed over these 52,000 acres from about 10:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. about three hours. how soon will we know whether it worked? >> well, we'll get a good sense for it hopefully by the end of the day. we've got mosquito traps out in the areas that weren't sprayed and traps out in the areas that
were sprayed, so we'll be able to compare those and do a pre post as well. we were hopeful we were going to get the 100,000 acres last night, do really one-fourth of our land mass, but we had some rain, so this chemical dissipates immediately when hit by water, so we were able to, we stopped after about midnight last night. >> if you say 100,000 acres and only has one done, are we looking at another night of spraying tonight? >> we're bringing in two more planes. we're going to have four. we're going to be able to get up tonight. probably out a little earlier and hopefully do, will make up what we did last night. we didn't get last night, and take another quarter of the county and of the city tonight and then continue through the weekend. >> as you well know, there were some people very much against this measure. they almost took it to court.
as i mentioned, this hasn't been done since 1966. 45 years ago. lyndon b. johnson was in office when you last did it. was it really necessary to go this far and take this measure? was there an alternative? >> well, this is a complex issue. nobody wants to have planes over their heads spraying, but when you see the story of the little girl that we've had ten deaths, my scheduler in my office has come down with west nile. it's impacting everybody. we've got to kind of nip this as closely to the bud as we can. look, we've got a lot of organic gardeners. a lot of people very interested in the environment in dallas and i honor their point of view, but when you come to life and death, you've got to make these edition decisions and we did. >> well, you took some heat for it, but i guess it was a successful night and we'll be looking at another couple of days this spring in dallas. thank you for joining us.
>> appreciate it and i think with the epa saying we needed to do it and cdc, you take that advice and get on with it. thank you. >> we appreciate it so much. triple digit temperatures are keeping wildfires burning across the west. now, there are fears that lightening strikes could make things worse. we're going to get a live update from rob marciano from one of the largest fires in washington state. you ever think about walmart for smart phones? no not really. let's see if we can change that. sure. walmart has the latest technology on the best networks. look at these smart phones! oh cool! wow these are really nice. we've got the samsung galaxy siii from at&t. at&t. yeah, you can talk and surf the web at the same time. courtney loves her new phone and you love the price. yup. now when she goes to school we can all keep in touch. we? be quiet sis. come to walmart. see for yourself. great coverage on the nation's largest 4g network. and get the at&t samsung galaxy siii for only $148. now at walmart.
dozens of wildfires in the west. at least 70 large fires are burning across 13 states west of the mississippi. california has the most with 13 blazes, but one of the biggest is in central washington state where hundreds of people have been evacuated from their homes and at least 60 homes have been b destroyed so far. rob marciano is covering that fire. good morning. are they getting a handle on that big fire there? >> they made a little progress yesterday. the winds have died down a last couple of days, but as that's happened, the temperatures have heated up. about a third of this fire is
contained. some residents have been allowed to go back and look at their homes, but 450 families remain evacuated. just over that ridge, you see the smoke lining the mountain top. and those, that smoke had some serious flame going on earlier this morning. that's the area they've been battling all day yesterday and the chopper now, just getting warmed up. they'll be in the area to hit those flames hard. if that smoke and fire creeps further down that hill, it will be in more homes. we spoke with many fire victims and evacuees yesterday. one of which describeded the chaos that happened when he was running for his life. . >> the fire started over on the right hand side. and it shot over that mountain. so fast like i said, we were, we went out to get our horses when the fire was just clear over here, six, seven miles away. i told everybody, don't panic,
don't scare the horses. let's take our time. we've got all day. all of a sudden, a wall of flames came up over the ridge. came up over the ridge like 100 foot high. so then i said, let's don't panic, but i think we better hurry. >> hurry they did along with hurrican hundreds of other people. they brought in extra manpower and equipment the past two days. military is in the area. the problem is going forward, the heat's going to be on and thunderstorms this week. check out these numbers for high temperatures across oregon and washington. these are the areas that see high temperatures. around 75 or 80 degrees. portland, oregon, vancouver, washington, seeing 100 degrees. over the weekend, thunderstorms will pop over the spine of the cascades. those lightening strikes may spark more fires and that's what
they're worried about. a fire weather watch has been posted for the weekend. pretty rare advisory issued by the national weather service, so even though they're getting a handle on the fire, no rest for the weary until next week. >> you used to work in that area and it's my neck of the woods. it's where i'm if from. it is unusually hot this time of year. let's hope they can fight those fires. thanks so much. good to see you. thanks, but no thanks. that is what team romney is saying to the latest offer from the obama campaign. we'll have a member of the obama staff joining me next to respond.
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another deadly day in afghanistan. this time, in farah province. a man in an afghan police uniform opened fire on u.s. troops, killing them and yesterday, two u.s. service members died. a rash of army suicides, more than a death a day in july. a new report says a record 38 active duty and reserve soldiers committed suicide just last month. the toll is up from 24 in june and this year, 187 active duty and reserve soldiers have taken their lives. two californians visiting owe sim park have been exposed to -- virus. one is recovering from the rare, but often fatal lung disease. health officials believe that droppings or urine contaminate air in their cabins. the virus can cannot be spread from person to person.
paul ryan is a congressman opposed president obama's stimulus plan and he had denied ever requesting stimulus money for his district in wisconsin. >> i assume you voted against the stimulus and i'm just curious if you accepted any money in your district. >> no, i'm not one of those people who votes and writes to the government for the money. i did not request any of this money. >> not so fast. flutters have since emerged showing mitt romney's running mate did ask for stimulus money. ryan says the letters requesting the money should have been handled a bit differently. let's make a deal. probably not the words you'd expect to hear during this year's presidential campaign, but it's happening. in a letter that morning, that's exactly what the obama campaign manager is offering to team romney on the issue of taxes. listen to this. it reads in part, if the governor will release five year
os returns, i commit in turn that we will not criticize him for releasing more. joining me now is traveling press is secretary for the obama campaign, jennifer sacky. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. >> the romney campaign is saying no. neither side appears to be giving in. i'm just curious to know what do you hope to gain by romney releasing five years of returns? and what do you hope to accomplish? >> well, a couple of things. let's not forget that mitt romney's father released 12 years of returns. we know the american people want to know what a candidate stands for. where they're coming from. what did they invest in? what decisions are they involved in? there are some discrepancies. we don't know a lot about why he had an ira in the cayman islands, a swiss bank account. there are a lot of unanswered
questions. he made a pretty fair offer this morning, wu as you mentioned, they rejected it flat out. >> what is good enough? he came out saying yesterday he paid 13.6% over the past ten years if you add chartable donation, it adds to about 20%. isn't that enough? >> we're offering them an opportunity to prove it. and the only way for us to know and for the american people to know what's in mitt romney's tax ru returns is for him to release additional years of tax returns. that's the only way to settle this. so, you know, put your money where your mouth is. let's prove what's in the tax returns and put all these questions to rest. >> all right. i want to go back to the battle over voters. this is a chief concern for both campaigns. you know, a new cnn poll shows that wisconsin, a state president obama won by double digits in the last election, is now a toss up. you can see 49% supporting the president.
45% for romney. that's a statistical tie. now in all, there are eight toss up states. now, with three months until election day, is this really where the the incumbent wants to be? >> well, we know this race is going to be decided in a handful of states. we feel good about our campaign in wisconsin. we've had a grass roots organization there since the president ran the last time. we have a great group of supporters there. we're going to be spending some time there i bet. we know also that the people in wisconsin are concerned about the same issues that people across the country are. i still can't name three things they're going to do. why are they opposed to providing access to affordable health care to the american people. why is their tax plan extending benefits to the highest income and letting it bear the burden on the middle class. these are questions people in wisconsin have as well. >> back to the issues though because much to my surprise yesterday, there was a big
debate about issues, on medicare. just today, you've released a new ad on medicare hitting back at the claims by the romney ryan campaign that the p president would cut more than $716 billion from the program. now, that ad is going to run in eight states including florida, where paul ryan will be in florida with his mother, who happens to be on medicare. as you know, romney brought out the white board yesterday. it was there in black and white. he says my plan will keep medicare solvent. the president's plan will cut $716 billion. you came out with your own. isn't this getting a little bit silly? come on. >> well, a white board can change the facts. you know, don't take our word for it. take arp's word for it. they're an advocate for seniors and have said the the president's plan would strengthen medicare, increase the years of solvency and have said the romney ryan plan could
pass on the cost to seniors. this is a debate we're happy to have. if the romney ryan team was happy about their tax plan, if their tax plan wasn't passing on the burden to middle class families while extending tax benefits to the rich, maybe they'd be talking about that. right now, we're kind of happy to have a day of debate about medicare and why the president's plan is better for seniors. >> so do we. hope to get some sleep in about three months. thanks for joining us. a drought hits the mighty mississippi. low levels are causing drinking water concerns for a lot of people in louisiana. so they're shipping in drinking water. we're going tell you more about that, next. lennouncer if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®
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residen residents are literally lining up for water today because the water they get from the river has too much salt. water levels are so low in the mississippi river it's allowing salt water to flow north from the gulf of mexico and increased amounts of salt in drinking water can be harmful to people on dial sis or low sodium diets. though officials say it is safe for everyone else. the army corps of engineers will build a levy to block the salt water. want to bring in karen mcginnis to talk about these levels. just how bad is it? >> it is the worst drought that we have seen in just about 50 years. also, we're seeing some of the lowest water levels that we've seen in quite some time as well. we've got some images from the mississippi river and if you think it's bad now, just wait
the next couple of weeks. it is expected to get even worse. just to give you an example, here is greenville, mississippi. takes a little bit of explaining, but right down here, this is the record low level back in 1988. a year ago at greenville, the river was sitting at just about 28 feet. well now we're sitting at just about eight feet below that. as we go into the next several weeks, it is expecteded to drop at least another couple of feet. we've got a graph that shows you what the peak was. what we are looking at as we go into the next couple of weeks. take a look at april 21st. this was back in 1927. river was at 65, so imagine the river here and now, the river is way down here. those barges are trying to navigate around some of the silt that has built up there. last summer, we saw an excess amount of rainfall, so those
levels are running high. but now, those barges are having a very difficult time and this is known as the mighty mississippi, but not so mighty right now. as we go into september, it's going get a little bit worse. >> just unfornt to hear that. thank you so much. they are images that transport you to another time and place. they have one thing in common that may surprise you. believe it or not, these photos were all snapped by amateurs, but are going to be in national geographic. we're going to take a closer look, next.
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may be shocked to read the fine print. the latest issue is filled with the work of amateurs. that's because they're the winners of the photo contest national geographic holds for amateurs. george stone is here to show us the winners. good morning. great to see you. this was pretty incredible. more than 12,000 photos from more than 6,000 photographers in 152 countries. how in the world do you choose? >> it was extremely hard. that was a great number of photos to go through and each photo represented an experience, a destination, a memory that someone had. they were fantastic and many of them captured places we didn't even know about. >> we're looking at one now i want to talk more about. it's visually arresting. that was your first place winner, taken in a remote part
of afghanistan. >> this is a stunning picture because it's so intimate. these are women in their remote area of afghanistan and they're inside a felt tent. and there are elements of maternity, television, stereo system, but then an old sewing machine and this rich, beautiful fabric in the background. it's a combination of new and old and also a very intimate shot. it's in their home. it's a remarkable picture. >> you're right. it's just beautiful. want to look at the second place photo, which really struck me. it's so, i mean, it could be from any time. it's in black and white. it was taken in vietnam with three children as you see there playing with balloons. tell us about this. >> what we love about it is the sense of suspended animation. the balloons are floating. they're hanging in the air and these kids are playing in the
village, far removed from most of the world, but they're playing the way kids do all around the world. they're playing with balloons and it's shot in black and white, so it has a dream, timeless quality and it's just a gorgeous, textured picture that takes you to a far away place, but with touch stones that are very identifiable. >> this is an easter celebration in sicily, i believe. what struck you about this one? >> i think more than anything, the passion. the faces of the men who have carried these heavy statues during easter week. devotional statues. they walked all night carrying these heavy objects and then at dawn, they finally are able to take a break and they're exhausted, but they have a sense of accomplishment and this scene overall really captured a place, a mood, a feeling. it kind of makes you want to be there. it makes you want to experience something like that.
traveler magazine always tries to take people places. >> one of the editors was talking about how he loved the three different expressions on the men's faces. i suggest you look at all of the photos, maybe not all 12,000, but at least the top 11. thank you so much for joining us. we're back after this. >> thanks. ♪
welcome back. rihanna has given a revealing interview to oprah. the first time she's talked about that well publicized incident with chris brown. michelle turner is here with more on that, so what did she say? >> well, she opened way up with oprah and she really made some surprising revelations, but it's her admission that even after chris brown beat her, she still felt protective towards him. >> i felt protective, i felt like only person he hit is him.
it was a weird, confusing space to be in. his main reason was he's angry and hurt and betrayed. i just felt like me made that mistake because he needed help and i just felt like, who's going to help him. nobody's going to say he needs help. everybody's going to say he's a monster without looking at the source. i was more concerned about him. >> now, people have really jumped on what she said here saying how could she feel sorry and protective of a man who just abused her, but you know, you look at that and i think that's really raw and emotional thing to see there and maybe what a lot of abused woman what a lot of abused woman feel at first when they're dealing with the fallout of an abusive situation. i'm interested to see this entire interview. >> so am i. thanks. we appreciate it. wow.
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he's won plenty of awards for his comedy career, but jay leno o has quite a collection of something else. cars. zain verjee on the chance to tour his massive garage. >> the color. >> that's steam. >> oh, wow. >> fun to restore cars and fix them up. taking something that ran 100 years ago and getting it to work again. that's, to me, is fun.
>> is there a car that you are dying to have that you don't have? >> you don't buy the car so much as you do the story. when you work with your hands, you realize how easy it is to make a living on television. all this back breaking, horrible work. just talk for a few minutes -- with cash in it. this is a 1909 baker electric. it's a fully electric car and these were quite popular as women's shopping carts because most cars of the period were like this. you had to grab this crank and you had to pull the engine through and it was quite heavy. and it was hard work for women and obviously, wealthy people want these and wealthy women were not going to get down on their knees and crank a car and then break their arm and do the whole deal, so these were quite popular. it's got makeup stuff here. the idea. excuse me.
>> bye bye. he had that car, steam cars, electric cars, classic cars, super cars. when i got there, he was actually working on them himself and told me he drives a different car every day, then gets another set of keys. i just want to show you this other car. he really was into. the nano. it's made in india, known as the people's car. the reason he liked it was it was going to transform. this one is like $2,700 and sometimes, you have families of five on a motorbike. mom, dad, three kids on a bike. so this was something he was really talking to me about. showed it to me and it was just really cost effective and cool. but it was so ch fun to be